Thread:LiSaLo/@comment-35508590-20180719210916

As an attachment to my post ...

It started with Debwika (how typical of her, giggle):

https://seekers-notes.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:81732

At the latest then the idea came up:

https://seekers-notes.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:82419#83

Here are the posts to my test:

First: 

LiSaLo wrote: With my word that I do not regret it and find time for it, but now I want to know it exactly and will install this weekend a new game on the laptop, just to test it. I will report. Any suggestions for further action? So far:

500 premium fixers, some passports and some CIss plus a CI after all;

500 premium fixers, some passports and some CIs plus a pass;

500 premium Fixers and some Passes and CIs plus one TY;

400 premium fixers ... and 100 TY plus one CI;

400 premium fixers ... and 100 TY plus one pass;

400 premium fixers ... and 100 TY plus one TY after all.

Second:  

LiSaLo wrote: Thank you for your offers to support me.

Test done and it behaves differently than expected. My friend blocked the laptop, so I used a second game on my phone and can now only speak for Android.

Seen gifts: TYs are supplanted by the following freebies, special fixers and CIs.

Unseen gifts: the oldest gifts are supplanted by newer ones. 490 TYs left only 10 freebies and no CI and displacing 32 (oldest gift on the second game) paperclips the other way round.

My conclusion: If I have little time to go through all the gifts, there does not seem to be a need to accept the TYs, as they are crowded out by any higher value gifts, the main thing being, I look in my GB for a blink, and TYs will replace by other gifts. Really weird and I have no idea why I lost CIs twice.

Third:

LiSaLo wrote: Excuse me, I have to make it clearer.

First test with a look into my GB without looking at all and some TYs inside, because they do not sort themselves in the order in which they were sent. Look at some CIs, filter the TYs, note the number and then send fixers, passports, premium fixers and other CIs. And look, only TYs have been replaced. Glad to have done it this way first, because all the TYs were replaced with the last mentioned gifts. So saved more small-scale experiments.

Next part were the unseen gifts. Filled the GB, with 500 gifts (premium fixers, fixers, passes and CIs) send 8 of each (premium fixers, fixers/passes (4+4), TYs and other CIs) to see how they affect unseen gifts in my GB. And saw that they were supplanting the first gifts in my GB (32 paper clips). I assume that it's the same for CIs at first place. If desired, I would like to repeat the test with CIs in the first place tomorrow, but I do not think that it brings any other results, it just seems to go to the order when what comes in, otherwise it would have displaced the later incoming CIs.

Final confirmation test: send back 490 TYs and see that 150 freebies have been replaced with TYs, only 10 freebies left in my GB from 160 before.

Oh Dystopian, as far as I know, all TYs result from the acceptance of sent / received gifts. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.

And please excuse my bad English, it's not my mother tongue.

Madlen

Edit: correct auto correct AND second test (also sent TYs, makes sense, how else could I tell that TYs displace other gifts?) 😡 and sorry it was to late for me, so tired.

Fourth:

LiSaLo wrote: Lola, I'm sorry that my answer is so confusing.

Maybe it's better to break everything down in numbers. I tried to go the shortest way, and for each test, I summed up all the conditions, counted the contents of the GB before and after sending more presents.

1st test - seen gifts

In my GB there were 240 TYs and 260 gifts (premium fixers, freebies and a collection). Saw 3 CIs and noted the number of gifts in my GB. Sent in each case 1 of each possible gift (pass, premium fixer, CI, TY). New count resulted in 237 TYs, so TYs are ousted by any other gift when seen in the GB, even without looking at all.

2nd Test - unseen gifts

Filled my empty GB with 500 gifts (48 paper clips first, then another 437 Premium Fixers, a collection, 5 fixers and 5 passports = 500 gifts, no TY). Note the number of each gift. Sent 8 of every possible gift (premium fixer, freebies, CIs and TYs). Renewed count resulted in only 16 paperclips, further counting saved, because I had already found the 32 difference.

3rd Test - just for confirmation, can TYs supplant other gifts, even if they are seen?

There were 160 freebies in my GB (looked at all before). Sent 490 TYs and counted afterwards only 10 freebies.

Hope that helps.

Madlen

Fifth:

LiSaLo wrote: I am sorry that this was so long and I almost did not do the last test because I was so sure that in a full giftbox (GB) existing TYs will be replaced by new gifts as long as the number of existing TYs is higher. But I had such a bad feeling, an inner turmoil, that I had miss something, and yes, what an erroneous assumption regarding the displaced TYs. Sad, but still glad to know that now.

@ Dystopian Thanks, use your idea of ​​a counter for the TYs. I have just installed a new game on my phone for this case and will delete it again. Only so I could evaluate a GB clean. It's a mystery how I could initially play on a cell phone (so small screen) and an even bigger riddle, how others can play more than one game.

Last try - full GB, typically when I slept one night, had a busy day or did too many TT gifts and only a few minutes was out of the game.

5 TYs, 5 CIs (knights), 1 pass (ScarLant), 9 premium fixers (the individual chains), followed by 480 gifts (a mix of every possible gift), did not look in the GB.

Now to the test: sent 3 CIs (suns) + 3 spider webs + 2 threads + 1 gold thread + 3 TYs = 12 new different gifts. Began the count.

First statement: all gifts were mixed (yes we knew that). Second statement: (yes, I really counted all for safety) the first 5TYs were displaced + 5 knights + the only ScarLant + 1 chain = 12 gifts.

Conclusions (please complete me):

1. In a "seen" full GB, the TYs are first displaced from each subsequent gift. 2. In an "unobserved" GB, the oldest gifts are replaced by each new gift. There are no priorities. 3. If there are more TYs than the difference between "real" gifts and TYs, even higher-quality gifts will be displaced in a viewed GB.

Well, I'm a little disillusioned now and come to another important conclusion:

Send the highest quality gifts last! 